Monday, September 26, 2016

Wentworth Season 5 Spoilers: Bea Smith Still Alive?

Wentworth Season 5 Spoilers: Bea Smith Still Alive?

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Another installment of Wentworth just ended last week. Most fans are still reeling from the show’s season finale. Who can blame them? The prison’s top dog, Bea Smith, is dead. Joan “The Freak” Ferguson repeatedly stabbed her with a screwdriver. But could she possibly have survived the Freak’s attack? Could Bea still make it out alive come Wentworth Season 5?

The season’s penultimate episode also showed another apparent murder. The Freak injected Bea’s girlfriend, Allie, with a lethal cocktail of class A drugs. Doctors all concluded that Allie’s a goner, but the finale showed her waking up at the exact moment that Ferguson was stabbing Bea. Can a similar miracle happen for Bea next season?

Foxtel took a huge risk in killing off one of their show’s major players. Fans are hoping the network’s just pulling a “Jon Snow” on them. HBO’s Game of Thrones also ended a season with the death of a major character. But after much fanfare, the show brought him back to life right after. Will the most popular prison series Down Under pull something similar off?

Danielle Cormack, who plays Bea on Wentworth, has been part of the Foxtel series from the very start. However, viewers might have really seen the last of her in the recently concluded season. According to News Australia, the show’s executive producer Jo Porter confirmed Bea’s death.

“It is always an incredibly difficult decision to say farewell to a much-loved and revered character like Bea Smith,” Porter said in a statement. “This storyline has had such a huge impact on us all and we are sure fans will feel the same. This decision was particularly hard as it meant also saying goodbye to Danielle Cormack.”

Cormack will still have a busy schedule moving forward, though. The actress has just become a ChildFund Australia’s ambassador.

How will the show move forward now that the top dog is dead? Will the Freak pay for what she did? Can Allie ever cope with what happened? Fans might have to wait for the show’s next installment to find out.

Wentworth Season 5 premieres next year.

  • E8hffff

    It’s a well filmed series but too heavy on promoting lesbian propaganda and other anti-family themes.

    • Terry Mac

      Well, I mean, a show about people being in prison for violent crimes isn’t really setup for being family friendly in the first place to be honest. What do you think goes on in prison? Nothing PG I promise you. Wentworth is probably as real as it gets depicting life behind bars…..just like the show Oz (men’s prison show). I’m not trying to be rude or anything, but I would assume people would expect grimy, dark, and undesirable things being protrayed in shows about life in prison. Prison isn’t a fun house for the family to enjoy.

      • Malcolm

        Get a grip terry mac, it’s a womens prison show what more do you expect? would you prefer if it was blocks l…..ol

        • Terry Mac

          I think you misunderstood. E8hffff was complaining about the show promoting lesbian propaganda and anti family themes. I was just stating the obvious to him. Obviously, he should not expect fun and family things to occur on a women’s prison show. I know what to expect out of a women’s prison show, so yeah.

    • Jo Aldridge

      Wow, your comment is so ridiculous..

      • Jean

        Couldn’t have said it better…

    • Adelai Rickman

      And how exactly is lesbianism “anti-family”?

      • E8hffff

        It’s divisive to men therefore causing imbalance. Some men may miss out having a female partner or are abandon and with children too, for a folly. It may promote some men being promiscuous and some hating women and possibly pushing them to gay lifestyles. We see this in the MGTOW movement. All new phenomena.

        Men and women should be respectful of each other and cherish the uniqueness.

        I agree some people start with indifference to the opposite sex, but others can be lured to that stance via gratification of sexual stimulation.

        Wentworth TV show had clear instructions and temptations given out about lesbianship.

        Wentworth TV show clearly portrayed the staff as being childless and promiscuous.

        • Adelai Rickman

          *”It’s divisive to men therefore causing imbalance. Some men may miss out having a female partner or are abandon and with children too, for a folly.”*

          So lesbians are evil simply because by being lesbians they aren’t going to end up as some guy’s wife? Do you realize how silly that sounds? You might as well say that straight women are evil because this means that some gay woman out there who might be the love of her life isn’t ever going to meet her because she’s with a guy. Or that straight guys are evil because they’re limiting the dating pool for gay guys. See? Kind of a ridiculous statement.
          Also, gay couples often desire families and children too, so I don’t know what you’re talking about with the “abandon with children” comment. People who come out as gay don’t just immediately forget about their kids or stop loving them. Oh, and FYI, there are millions more straight people abandoning their kids than there are gay people. Just look at the dead-beat parent epidemic we’re dealing with. It isn’t the gays who are creating tons of kids that they don’t actually want or love.

          *”It may promote some men being promiscuous and some hating women and possibly pushing them to gay lifestyles. We see this in the MGTOW movement. All new phenomena.”*

          What are you talking about? How are two women being in a loving relationship with eachother inciting hatred of women in men? What does their relationship have to do with men at all? Are you claiming that all men are just so immature and egotistical that they burn up with anger and jealousy whenever they see two women being happy together without a man in the picture? Seriously? Who thinks like that?
          So are gay guys responsible for women hating men and for women turning into lesbians? Really? That’s your theory? I don’t know if anyone has ever told you this, but sexual drive isn’t a choice. You can’t just decide to be aroused by the same-sex or opposite-sex. If you can, you’re a bisexual. Oh, and people have always been promiscuous. This is not a recent development.

          *”Men and women should be respectful of each other and cherish the uniqueness.”*

          What makes you think they don’t/aren’t? Just because a man may be gay and not want to have sex with a woman doesn’t mean that he hates her or thinks less of her. And vice-versa. Lesbians don’t avoid sex with men because they hate them. Not being sexually attracted to someone doesn’t equate to disrespecting them or hating them.

          *”I agree some people start with indifference to the opposite sex, but others can be lured to that stance via gratification of sexual stimulation.”*

          Yeah, here’s the thing though: If you are capable of engaging in pleasurable sexual relationships with members of the same-sex, you were either gay or bi to begin with. If you’re truly straight, you are not going to enjoy same-sex activities, period. Claiming that someone who is straight can magically become gay if they have great gay sex undermines the idea that they were ever straight to begin with. If they were really straight, they wouldn’t have been able to have same-gender sex in the first place.

          *”Wentworth TV show had clear instructions and temptations given out about lesbianship.”*

          Such as?

          *”Wentworth TV show clearly portrayed the staff as being childless and promiscuous.”*

          Yes, and most of them are also pretty young, in case you didn’t notice. Most people don’t settle down and have kids right out of high school. Being young and having a healthy sex life isn’t abnormal. And it doesn’t mean that they don’t ever want kids. In fact, one of the main characters (Will) and his wife were actively trying for children in the first season before her murder. The main character had a child (Bea), one of the characters tries desperately to have a kid in prison (Boomer), one actually does have a kid in prison on accident (Doreen), and another of the women has two kids (Liz).
          All of this aside, this a show about life in a maximum security prison full of murderers and drug dealers. Are you really wanting it to feature kids running around? How exactly are they supposed to incorporate day-to-day family life into the plot of this show? I’m not sure what you want them to do here.

          • E8hffff

            Many don’t accept homosexuality as natural. Many see it as a condition, not innate. Therefore promoting it, leads to dysfunction.

          • Adelai Rickman

            *”Many don’t accept homosexuality as natural. Many see it as a condition, not innate. Therefore promoting it, leads to dysfunction”*

            What you “accept” or don’t accept has absolutely no bearing on reality. The scientific evidence supporting the innateness and natural occurrence of homosexuality is vast and ironclad, and only those still stuck in the pseudo-science of yesteryear would contest it. We’ve proven conclusively that homosexuality is natural (natural being defined as occurring on its own in nature without any influence or interference), that there is a strong genetic component to it, and that it has no demonstrable negative impact on either the individual or society at large. If you want to make a case that this huge body of evidence is wrong, and that homosexuality causes “dysfunction” you have to back that up with more than just your feelings. Saying that something is “unnatural” or “dysfunctional” just because you don’t like it doesn’t prove anything beyond your subjective opinion.

          • E8hffff

            Fraternity-science has no standing.

          • Adelai Rickman

            And what exactly is “fraternity” science?

          • E8hffff

            Club-Science with agendas.

          • Adelai Rickman

            So…basically any scientific evidence that doesn’t support your preconceived notions and biases? Is that what “fraternity science” is?

          • E8hffff

            If you think homosexuality is natural then you’re insane. It doesn’t matter which faction says it nto so. Actions happen but it doesn’t mean they are proper.

          • Adelai Rickman

            *”If you think homosexuality is natural then you’re insane. It doesn’t matter which faction says it nto so. Actions happen but it doesn’t mean they are proper.”*

            So, once again, we come back to your empty, meaningless assertion that “Gay is bad because I don’t like it!” without a single shred of evidence presented supporting your irrational and bigoted feelings. Ever heard this phrase: “That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence”? Maybe ponder that for awhile.

          • E8hffff

            It’s a topic you can’t argue against as it’s defined in nature for procreation.

          • Adelai Rickman

            *”It’s a topic you can’t argue against as it’s defined in nature for procreation.”*

            You do realize that heterosexual sex is not required for procreation, right? Sperm and eggs are what is required to procreate, and being gay in no way affects your ability to produce sperm, eggs, or to carry a pregnancy to term. Even if all humans starting with the entire next generation were born gay, we would still be able to make babies and the human race would survive. As much as straight bigots like yourself would like to believe that you are somehow necessary for the continuation of the human species, news flash: You aren’t. We would survive just fine without you.

          • Terry Mac

            Jeez, I knew you had to be homophobic.
            I absolutely love Wentworth because it’s edgy and raw….not a lot of shows like it.
            So with that being said, Wentworth is not the only show that has LGBTQ characters…..but I guess those shows are promoting “dysfunction” as well.
            Let’s be real here, more than half of what’s on television can be classified as promoting “dysfunction” as you call it, and majority of them have NOT ONE LGBTQ character in them…..just a bunch of STRAIGHT characters on tv acting crazy and “promoting” violence, sex, drugs, and criminal/unprofessional/unethical behavior.
            I find it amusing that out of all the things about Wentworth, you pick the lesbians to point out. What about the very graphic violence? If you have any real concern about a show, shouldn’t that be it….and not lesbians??? I guess not turning women into lesbians is more important than seeing somebody get stabbed in the neck/stomach…well because family is important : ) .

          • Lou

            Trollololol!

          • Jenna

            You seem like the dysfunctional one

        • StrangeAsAngels

          Oh, you’re disgusting… and you know nothing about whether homosexuality is innate or learned. Only people who are gay could possibly know that and you’re not gay, ain’t that right?

        • StopTheMadness

          In short you’re saying that if a man or woman is attracted to the same sexxs they should be forced to be attracted to the opposite. What’s wrong with you?!

    • jlenoconel

      LOL what? You know there are real lesbian in prison, right? What anti-family themes are you talking about?

      • E8hffff

        Yep I can accept the show having those themes, but in Wentworth it’s blatantly promoting the lifestyle.

        • StopTheMadness

          Homosexuality is not a lifestyle.

      • E8hffff

        You’ll also notice in Wentworth they have removed the religious angle of people in prison. Even though I don’t like Islam, it’s the only point to inmates being spiritual in that you see a Muslim women in the crowd.

        Yep it’s a fictional TV show.

        • jlenoconel

          I think you’re reading too much into things. They’ve done storylines that aren’t as liberal either e.g. Bea not siding with a feminist.

          • Jean

            I think E8ffff is promoting an agenda… I find it hard to believe they are a real fan of the show.

          • Jean

            To take four seasons to get the main character to be in a somewhat lesbian relationship in a female prison does not seem like the writers are promoting any kind of homosexual/liberal agenda.

          • jlenoconel

            Wentworth seems pretty neutral on most issues. The actual actresses are probably a lot more liberal than their characters.

    • Bradley James Yellop

      I am gay myself and have no problem with gay characters. The problem is, Bea Smith was never a lesbian in the original. There were plenty of lesbians in the original show, but Bea was never one of them. It does a disservice to the original characters. Just in the way that George Takei complained about Sulu being made gay in Star Trek.

      • Terry Mac

        But how is it a disservice, though?
        To me a disservice would be not playing the role just as good if not better as the original actress……and Danielle Cormack has knocked that ball out of the park.
        Every aspect is not going to be the same as the original of every remake.
        Bea Smith was not a lesbian.
        I’m not sure why people keep saying that.
        If anything good is to be taken from Wentworth, it is that love is not about what gender you are…gender should not matter.
        If you find somebody that treats you like a queen/king, then it should not matter the gender.
        That was the point they were trying to make.

        • Bradley James Yellop

          But Bea wasn’t a lesbian. In the original, her major right hand for the majority of her tenure as Top Dog in Wentworth, was a lesbian (Judy Bryant). Joan Ferguson is a lesbian in the remake, no problem, as is Frankie, no problem. Because they were both lesbians in the original. They were part of the aspects of the character created back then. Homosexuality wasn’t an aspect of Bea Smith when she was created.

          Also, Danielle Cormack has not portrayed Bea better than Val Lehman did.

          Finally, the gender of who you in fall in love with does matter to me. I am gay and fall for men. You implying otherwise implies that there’s a choice to sexuality and there isn’t.

          • Terry Mac

            Bea is not a lesbian in Wentworth.
            Why are you saying she is?
            If you going to label it, than she is bisexual or pansexual.
            Again….not everything about the original character is going to be the same in the remake, and there is nothing wrong with that…..as long as the premise is the same.
            Um, did I say Danielle Cormack has portrayed Bea better than Val?
            My statement was pretty much saying that Danielle Cormack has played Bea Smith amazingly.
            I was in no way comparing the two if you go back and read it again…..and even if I was saying Danielle Cormack plays Bea Smith better than Val, than that is MY OPINION.
            You said that gender does matter to you. Well, sorry, but that’s YOU….you do not make up for the rest of the people that don’t look at gender, but instead, they look at the person. Not everybody is out here labeling things like you are . I’m talking about people that are questioning there sexuality because they are attracted to the same sex but have always been with the opposite sex. They try to hide their feelings towards the same sex because well…they are scared to be with the same gender because society is so messed up. It does not matter who you love….it should be accepted and not judged. If you a woman and love a woman…fine. If you a man and love a man…fine. if you a man and love only love women…fine. If you a woman and love only men…fine. That was the point.
            Oh and btw, I’m also gay, sooooo…..

          • Bradley James Yellop

            So labelling myself as gay is bad? You might want to think your sexuality is a choice, but I am proud to be a gay man.

            It doesn’t matter who you love. But as I said previously, George Takei didn’t agree with making Sulu gay in Star Trek, but it wasn’t applicable to Sulu.

            Also, to tinker with a character’s sexuality for no reason, is actually quite insulting to LGBT people. It’s pandering.

            I don’t think it mattered that Red Riding Hood is in love with Dorothy in Once Upon A Time. Because neither of those character’s sexualities were ever defined. But Bea Smith’s has been. She even had romances with men whilst she was in prison. With the guy who went on to play Lou Carpenter in Neighbours.

          • Terry Mac

            Are you kidding me right now??? I NEVER said labeling yourself as a gay man is bad! Labeling yourself is not bad at all. My point was that not everybody is out here labeling because well it’s true! I would like for you to show me where I even remotely said that being gay was a choice because I recall saying that it does not matter who you love because gender does not matter. I shouldn’t be stoned to death for loving the same gender. I shouldn’t get judged for loving the same gender. I shouldn’t have to beat myself up for falling for the same gender. As long as that person treats me like I should be treated, than it should not matter to anybody the gender I am with. I label myself as gay and would never seek at the opposite sex. Just because I label myself doesn’t mean I need to label others. You my friend are reading too much into what I’m saying because you are really twisting the positivity I’m trying to convey with negativity.
            How in the world is tinkering with a character’s sexuality insulting??
            No, you want to know what’s insulting right about now for the LGBTQ community. All these writers and producers not showing good presentation of our people on screen. Plus, killing them off faster than you can say wow. That’s insulting.
            So you are assuming that because Bea Smith had romances with men in prison that that defines her as being straight? What makes you think they wouldn’t have written her to have romances with women of Val would have not wanted to leave the show? What if she just didn’t find a woman in there attractive enough and personable enough to have a romance with? Has it ever occurred to you that maybe just maybe they talked to Val and the original writers/producers about having Bea Smith falling in love with a woman, and they were okay with it? I mean have they come out with pitch folks and petitions, yet?
            Not sure how many times I’m going to say this…..but just because the original character was written and “defined” one way, does not mean the remake will do the same. Some people will love the idea but some will hate it, but
            if the actors are playing the roles very well, than why should it matter about the characters’ sexuality??? I would be more ticked off at the actor not playing the part right rather than blast the character’s sexuality change.

          • Bradley James Yellop

            You need to learn the difference between what is stated and what can be implied. One can imply that you wrote that sexuality is a choice.

            Where in Wentworth is there not enough LGBT representation? Kaz, Frankie, the shrink (I forget her name), Juice, Allie, Joan, Maxine. Even in Prisoner: Cell Block H, you had Frankie, Sharon Gilmour, Judy Bryant, Joan Ferguson, Joan Ferguson had a girlfriend later in the series. The man “Rabbit” Warren went on to marry admitted to being bi-curious in the men’s prison. Chrissie Latham was bi. Doreen was bi-curious originally. So there is no need to make Bea this way, it is pandering.

            I don’t say this about the upcoming Xena remake. Because the subtext was there in the original. I would feel the same if there was a Buffy remake and they made Willow straight.

            Also, Bea was Top Dog for 400 episodes out of 692. They had plenty of time to introduce a storyline like that and didn’t.

          • Terry Mac

            Oh trust me, I know the difference, and there is no doubt in my mind that I implied nothing. Why would I??? I’m gay for crying out loud….jesus, if it was a choice I should go to the opposite sex without a problem. But guess what? It is a huge problem for me. However, you seem to be too stubborn to realize that you jumped the gun, and assumed I was talking about something I was not. When somebody assumes that something is being implied they are often wrong….and here I am telling you that you were WRONG.
            And here you are again not carefully reading what I put down and assuming I’m talking about something I’m not. I’m not talking about the Wentworth writers and producers. I’m talking about writers and producers of tv shows in general that “bury their gays” and they don’t often represent us in a good way when they do put LGBTQ characters on screen.
            Just becuse they didn’t show Bea in a romance with a woman within that time frame does not mean they wouldn’t have done it later.

          • StopTheMadness

            You sound ridiculous please stop. It isn’t a disservice to anyone for them to have shown Bea with another women. Things like this happen in the real world all the time. Not saying at all that being gay is a choice but sexuality is more fluid than what you’re making it to be. I believe in this situation under “normal” circumstances Bea would be considered straight but she found someone that happened to be a woman and developed feelings of friendship, trust, love etc. It doesn’t have to be so complicated.

          • Jean

            Who is Val? Was this series based off of another? I am from Kansas, United States. I only noticed the series two years ago on Netflix because I was watching Orange is the New Black, and I played catch up (binge watching is what they call it)… I didn’t exactly love the series at first because it is so hard core (OITNB is a lightweight compared to Wentworth). I did really did want the character, Bea Smith, to prevail against all odds. I understood her frustrations… Her anger, and I kept watching… Well, now that she is dead, it is kind of hard to watch the next season… ugh.

          • Terry Mac

            Val Lehman is the actress that played the original Bea Smith….and yes, Wentworth is based off Prisoner (or Prisoner: Cell Block H) that aired in 1979. The show was really good than as well. I agree that OITNB is very light. It doesn’t seem to depict the true nature of prison life…but it is a great show nonetheless. I think what makes Wentworth better than OITNB is the acting. OITNB has really good actors….but Wentworth?? Jeez…that show gives me all the feels in the world with the amazing acting. Just the raw emotions can be felt through my tv screen. This show is so edgy and raw that it really just gets you hooked. As far as Bea’s death goes….I ranted about that for a couple days after it happened to anybody that would listen. I didn’t agree with the decision to do that….at all. I’m not buying the reason behind killing her off either. Just about of BS if you ask me.

          • Jean

            Thanks for the info Terry… I was looking at some information online about the Prisoner series. It is hard to believe that a series like that existed back then. I will have to check it out 😉
            I just finished up Wentworth Season 4, and I sooooo want to rant as well… I felt like the writers betrayed the fans in the finale by killing her off. The move sure did generate a lot of attention, which is maybe why they did it. But wouldn’t that move not only hurt the current fan base, but also, damage any future fan base? I wouldn’t tune into a series when I knew that the main character was killed off before the series was over. The writers should have at least given us a solid alternative to the main character during Season four if the plan was to kill Bea at the season’s end.

      • Jean

        I don’t think the point of Bea and Allie being together was disservice or service to either sexual agenda (gay or straight).

        It seems this season focused on Bea’s realization that she was indeed alone–no more family, no more friends on the outside, and a very diminishing trust in her prison friends… Dor left her group, and it was rumored Maxine wanted to oust Bea as “top dog.” Turmoil everywhere… No one left who truly cared for her…

        Allie was a lesbian who came along who could fill those voids. Despite being in different posies, Allie trusted Bea with secrets because of her interest in Bea, and Bea realized she could trust Allie with her secrets as well as her life. Trust and loyalty are hard to find outside of a prison environment, nearly impossible to find within one.

        I believe the writers intended for us to see that love, care, loyalty, and trust are what Bea so desperately needed in her life. In Allie, she found those things… Once Bea validated Allie was for real, Bea didn’t care about her environment, or being gay, or even being “top dog.” She felt loved, she felt cared for, she felt needed and desired by another, she felt loyalty, she felt she was human again…
        No straight, gay, or lesbian disservice… Bea just had the same basic desires that the rest of the population on Earth has, except she was in a women’s prison… Plain and simple…

    • Lou

      What a load of rubbish!!! It’s not too ‘out there’ to suggest that there will be women having relationships with other women in a prison setting. I think Wentworth hits the nail on the head perfectly with the issues it covers. The relationship with Bea and Allie, in my opinion, wouldn’t be considered even a lesbian relationship – it was quite simply a woman falling in love with another woman! Prior to Allie Bea hadn’t ever had that experience before.

    • Janine Sue Turner-Metrician

      It’s a woman’s prison. It’s pretty much reality about woman on woman sex.

      • E8hffff

        They could insinuate what happens rather than give full instructions or b-grade porn.

        • Janine Sue Turner-Metrician

          The only suggestion I can give is don’t watch it if it bothers you that much.

    • Jean

      A prison drama is never a theme for family entertainment (one of the reasons you or I would never want to spend time there). It is hard core!!!!… And as far as promoting lesbian or gay propaganda, prisons are segregated to the same sex! Without going into all the psychological studies done on women in prison, it is hard to get around the fact that there are no men to have sex with legally in a women’s prison.

    • Baked

      It’s a show about a women’s prison.. what do you think goes on in women prisons? And why would a prison show be classified as a family show? You’re just looking for a reason to be a bigot. If you don’t like the show, because lesbians scare you, then don’t watch it.

      • Terry Mac

        “Because lesbians scare you” – now that is funny.

  • Jennifer Howard

    Bring bea back!!!! This is her show the top dog can not be gone!

  • akadat1niqqa

    Yal killed the coldest bitch smh….bruford

  • Janine Sue Turner-Metrician

    R.I.P. Wentworth. No Danielle Cormack (Bea Smith) no show. Your ratings are going to decrease severely. I don’t think you thought this through on how WE your FANS will respond to such a loss. You could always write her back in, EASY!!!

    • Jean

      I was thinking the same thing… It will be painful to tune into a series with the main character who I have rooted for the past four years be dead. I sense that the fans feel the same way.. Why would I watch a series that I find painful? I would rather watch a series I find entertaining.

  • Malcolm

    Ahhhhh what tha …. totally crazy/insane that foxtel would do such a thing to the fans and the show, no BEA SMITH no wentworth simple as that really!!! I have routed for her from the start now she THE TOP DOG IS DEAD pfffft….don’t think you guys really tought this one through completely!!! Well i will be done with the show aswell as a few of my friends that feel the same “even my grandma” feels the same lol unless you guys somehow manage to write BEA SMITH back in, your going to lose a’lot of viewers soooo stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!